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Ok, so I love peoples early work, always have. When they are learning the craft they are involved in. Music, Writing everything really. I have the Terry Pratchett's book "Good Omens", and graphic Novels "The Colour of Magic" and "The Light Fantastic", the luggage was my favourite character, but it was an ex who was the real fan, but I read every book he had. But does anyone else think that he is just......well crusing now?

Ok so I lost a bit of faith when the whole Watchman series begain. I loved Rincewind, Death, the Witches, love them all, but the Watchmen, just a big No No to me!

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Date: 2007-01-03 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bogwitch.livejournal.com
I was just saying to [livejournal.com profile] hesadevil today, that it was TP's obsession with Vimes that turned me off.

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Date: 2007-01-03 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/woman_of_/
I had great optimisism for the Watch series, then Vimes took over, and I hated it! I just don't like him, and a lot of his books now center round Vimes, leaving great, inventive characters out! Oh ba humbug...I guess

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Date: 2007-01-03 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bogwitch.livejournal.com
Bring back the witches!

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Date: 2007-01-03 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
Actually I love the Watch stories, and think the worst of the Discworld books are The Colour of Magic and The Light Fantastic, apart from the luggage, because I think it took him until somewhere around the third or fourth book to really get it together.

But I do think he is beginning to cruise a bit now, you are dead right.

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Date: 2007-01-03 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/woman_of_/
Din-chewers! That was brilliant! The play on words in both those books were wonderful, so inventive.

Yes the luggage was a wonderful contratption. I personally want "The Magic Cottage", "Carrie" and "The Luggage to be mine!

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Date: 2007-01-03 11:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ruuger
I loved Rincewind, Death, the Witches, love them all, but the Watchmen, just a big No No to me!

Agh, blasphemer! :)

But seriously, I think you're the first person I've ever met who likes the Rincewind books but not the Watch books :)

But does anyone else think that he is just......well crusing now?

I don't think Pratchett is cruising as much as he's slowly moving from humour to serious fiction with a bit of satire thrown in. The books are definetely getting darker and more political, especially with the Watch books.

But I have to agree with [livejournal.com profile] bogwich in that TP is getting a bit obsessed with Vimes - Vimes is my favourite chracter, but he's starting to get a bit too Vimes, if you understand what I mean, and I think TP will have to kill him soon.

(You know, I just realised that two of the my three Pratchett icons have James Marsters in them. Heh.)

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Date: 2007-01-03 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bogwitch.livejournal.com
I think TP perhaps sees too much of himself in Vimes, and therein lies the problem.

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Date: 2007-01-04 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/woman_of_/
Was just saying that Vimes is a bit of a Mary Sue character myself.

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Date: 2007-01-04 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/woman_of_/
I loved him exploring the other countiries in the Discworld, but the watch are stuck in Ankh Morpork, and Vimes is too modern. He is also a bit of a Mary Sue, too me. Vimes was TP putting himself into his book, and now he cannot let go.

I loved the exporation, seeing exotic places, and people in the other works, while the watch is a bit like a political story, with a bit of police work thrown in. Read too many of them when I was younger, and it seems to have lost the novelity of the earlier works.

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Date: 2007-01-04 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-felis.livejournal.com
Noooooooo! We're on opposite sides there, I love the watch books and Vimes in particular (sorry Nobby, I'd do you if you had a bath). I thought Night Watch was one of his best actually.

Rincewind never really got to me, but I agree there should be more of the witches. You can never have too much of Granny Weatherwax...

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Date: 2007-01-04 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/woman_of_/
I loved Lords and Ladies, Equal Rites in fact all the Witches books, but not the watch ones, still. I also adored "Moving Pictures"...."Little Gods" so many.

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Date: 2007-01-04 09:03 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] speakr2customrs.livejournal.com
It's not just the Vimes books; 'Going Postal' was Vimes-free but it wasn't great, and 'Wintersmith' did nothing for me either. And 'Monstrous Regiment' featured Vimes only in a small role and I hated it. Deeply flawed. The military organisation and uniforms therein make no sense for a non-gunpowder army; which wouldn't matter if it was silly fun like the early books, but the very realistic style that he uses these days needs to be based on solid foundations or it is just feeble.

What really made me think that Pterry has lost it was when [livejournal.com profile] keswindhover did her Discworld/BtVS crossover 'Dwarfbread' and it was better than any real Terry Pratchett book since 'The Last Continent'. That just shouldn't happen.

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Date: 2007-01-04 10:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/woman_of_/
I think 'The Last Continent' was the last one I sat down and enjoyed, the others since I picked up, read a bit of, and then lost interest. I loved it when he was playing with words, mythology, history and exporation....to name but a few areas.

They were funny, gave me a glow when I recognised what he was playing with, some obvious, some not. Now I am a bit put off.

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Date: 2007-01-04 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] felisblanco.livejournal.com
Monstrous Regiment is actually my favourite of them all. Taking on sexism and feminism and gay rights and just plain equality between all kinds. Some of the conversations were just so good. I rather like that he's getting more serious, more political and cynical. Not saying all his newer books are great, but I loved that one.

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